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Sergeant Acht Scultz
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Posted - 2013.06.05 22:27:00 -
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Haulin Gneiss wrote:Copper Rei wrote:why? this change makes no sense to me. I trained to fly a scanning frig...found I needed to also be able to run the sites if I wanted to make anything out of the sites I found.....so I trained to skill everything I needed for exploration to lvl V and then I trained combat to be able to fly decent cruisers...this didn't work as well as the frig due to loss of scan bonuses....so the long awaited t3 which offered scan bonus options........I trained to cruiser V and weapons and all subsystems so I could fly a decent cruiser with scan bonus comparable to my frig........
I just found a good fit that holds all my gear for scanning....analyzer, salvager, codebreaker, and launcher as well as having weapons enough to run the site so I didn't have to fly a second account and tag along another toon while dual boxing and all that..........
I finially get there and you block my access to every known site in h-sec.
I am a 3+ year pilot with no ability to PVP and I enjoy solo exploration.
I found a game I could play and have fun and I have tried damn near every aspect of the game.
This move to eliminate the t3 from the only available sites in h-sec SUCKS MY ASS.
I have never been so pissed.
I am forced into l-sec. and ALL my training is out the window.
Never mind this is supposed to be a 'sandbox". There are a lot of us in the same boat. just get a nice worm and live with that. gone are the days when CCP gives content for experienced players. They takin all our toys and giving them to the noobs or low sec.
Strategic cruisers are meant to be versatile, which some are and most precisely Tengu followed very closely by Loki.
For exploration you can't just spit in the air how op those are and forget about the essential, those are minor sites requiring cruiser sized hulls and I do agree these T3's are rather good to clean those sites.
Now tell us all about exploration and how you tank/DPS your 10/10 with your lonely Tengu fitted for exploration. You can't !
So in the end are those OP or not OP?
The answer is quite simple, you're using a fantastic tool to clean sites not requiring anything else than a regular T1 or T2 ship version, if something you should ask for a T1 cruiser hull with bonus for this, not say strategic cruisers are OP because it's false, it's only your perception from your experience in small minor exploration sites.
Again the problem is not T3's but the lack of a cheaper exploration ship cruiser sized in between T1/T2 exploration frigates and T3's exploration subs.
Will that be all? -ok you can send me 1B for this enlightenment.
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.05 22:38:00 -
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Derdrom Utida wrote:You're absolutely allowed to play the game in the way in which you want to. Hi-sec still exists, and it will continue to exist. But you shouldn't be making "good" ISK when you have a ship that simply tears apart anything you throw it at. It's not healthy for the game.
Hell, with Tags4Sec and the new explo, I feel low-sec should STILL be buffed, but that's just because I'm biased.
Are you kidding?
You're kidding right?
Tell me more about Faction fitted Machariels/Vindicators/Nightmares/Rattlesnakes Gilas Navy ships and other pimp stuff that should be banned from high sec too.
From your point of view players in high sec should fly with T1 frigates and cruisers only? -because that's what you're implying since T3's are not what you're talking about or at least you've never flown a 3K+DPS Machariel/Vindicator able to clean entire sanctums in less than 20min, leave it alone lvl4's.
You're finding problems where there aren't any, it's players actions and the content they crate for themselves. Someone tells you to do it in a T3? -I don't think so, I don't think neither it's in the EULA, don't like it? don't use it
Make your own content, build your own gaming tools, this is the finest freedom you have available in Eve, you shape yourself your gaming world.
Hell go run lvl4's in a retriever or a T2 frigate if you like, the problems you might find is not tools available but players horrible thinking.
Edit because it's worth: low sec doesn't need more buffs, just needs better thinking players over there.
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:02:00 -
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Andski wrote:actually the eula does prevent you from getting a T3 into a 3/4/10 since the only way you'd have one in there is if you're exploiting
The entire point being OP is delivering tears and rage for peanuts, believe me I've made huge efforts to not troll this (harder)
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:24:00 -
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Derdrom Utida wrote:
No one's stopping people from running 3 and 4/10 DED's with Gila's or other blingy ships. CCP agrees with my sentiment that there was a problem because they nerfed specifically T3's in those DED's. Bringing strategic cruisers into lowbie sites isn't this genius idea that only idiots don't do, it's what everyone did, and thus, warranted the nerf.
Level 4's shouldn't even be in this discussion because they can't be solo'd in a Caracal, unlike 3/4 DED's.
EDIT: Spelling
I understand you point of view, thing is that by that logic CCP are not being logic, what about ban from lvl4's Marauders/Navy ships/Pirate ships?
By that logic then why not ban T2 links/OGB and T2 mining ships from high sec?-those have a well known huge impact
By that logic again why not ban from high sec POSs?-those clearly have a huge impact
It's exactly the same problems but a lot bigger and having a greater impact than T3's running 3/4 anoms, instead of fixing anom difficulty or the mechanic it's easier and faster to script ban an item, and this is silly.
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.06 11:52:00 -
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Derdrom Utida wrote:It's as if you're implying CCP hates your freedom and ingenuity and seeks to ruin your fun.
All they did was not allow a beastly monster of a scanning/clearing combo ship to enter lowbie sites.
I'm not implying whatever, just note that T3's in 3 and 4 sites steamroll on them like typia says but actually Machariels and vindicators at 3k+dps don't steamroll on lvl4's.
CCP buff Machariels and Vindicators plz
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